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YouTubeTape #6 – Superman of Earth-2
The Sixth Tape: DC Dave and Doug Adamson play Tape #6, which looks at …
Superman of Earth-2
With co-host Dr. Anj
Timestamps:
- 2:33 – Crisis News
- 6:06 – Dr. Anj
- 25:29 – Promo: Who’s Editing
- 26:17 – Superman of Earth-2
- 1:08:39 – Infinite Earth Spotlight
- 1:13:44 – Wrap up
- 1:17:36 – Promo: Moving Kryptonian Images
- 1:19:53 – Notes from the Multiverse
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Dr. Anj Supergirl Comic Box Commentary
Back Issue! #195 – Crisis on Infinite Earths 40th Anniversary Retrospective
Promo – Moving Kryptonian Images
Music: Achilles
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Great episode Dave and Doug. Always a pleasure to hear Dr. Anj appear across the podcastopshere (copyright Ryan Daly). I’ve long been a huge fan of the Earth-Two Superman, and you fellas did a bang up job covering his all-important role in Crisis. I co-sign everything you said, and in fact my neck hurts from nodding so much.
Just a few thoughts: I agree that the two Supermen don’t look exactly the same in my head canon. Doug and I subscribed to the same fan theory newsletter as kids I suppose, because I always thought of Earth-Two Superman as George Reeves (although maybe I would have thought of Kirk Alyn had I seen the serials at a younger age) and Earth-One Supes as Christopher Reeve (naturally). Have you guys ever read DC Comics Presents Annual #1 (1982)? That was the first story I read where the two Supermen teamed up, and it was written by Marv and in hindsight works as a prequel to Crisis ! We meet Alexander Luthor and HIS Lois Lane on Earth-Three, and we get to see that the Earth-Two Lois is indeed Superman’s rock. Marv had a great handle on them. E2 Kal-L tries to convince his younger counterpart to finally settle down with his Lois there too.
E1 Lois was in a bit of a rut in the early 80s. The Super-Couple got more romantic around the time of the first movie, but broke up in the early 80s and Clark started dating Lana. Of course I guess Alan Moore answered that it was indeed Lois that Superman loved best in his last Earth-One Superman story, much to Lana’s heartache. I guess Supes just overlooked all those zany Silver Age stories where Lois tried to blackmail him into marriage or worse. But he was a Super-Dick back then too!
Back to E2 Supes and Lois, their strong marriage was explored in the very fun “Mr. And Mrs. Superman” series in Superman Family in the late 70s/early 80s, so not too long before Crisis. I think Marv was keying off that portrayal as well. During JSApril, my wife Cindy and I began our occasional coverage of that series on the Justice Society Presents podcast over on the Fire and Water Network. More to come!
Keep up the great work, gents!
Loved that first episode of Mr. and Mrs. Superman, and I’m looking forward to more. I’m pretty sure Martin Gray got on us for not knowing about DCCP Annual 1. I read it around the time it came out, but I haven’t read it in decades. I really do need to pick it up, and based on your recommendation that it’s a good Crisis prequel, I think it will get moved up near the top of the list.
Glad to have you on board, and so glad you’re enjoying the show!
Lovely to hear Anj in the satellite, and what a top show. Excellent point from Doug about the two Supermen not actually looking much like one another, but for me the Earth Two chap isn’t George Reeves, he’s an update on Joe Shuster‘s original, same as in All-Star Comics – but David is right about the body being more Wayne Boring. (I suppose for kids who grew up with the old Superman TV show, things might be different – one day I’ll get my DVDs watched.) And Symbol Pending is spot on, Power Girl never looked much like Supergirl until recently, when DC started to get her completely wrong, presenting Peege as younger and shorter, rather than Super Jayne Mansfield.
I hated seeing Golden Age Superman so sad in the first days post-Crisis, but glad he, Lois, Superboy Prime and Alexander Luthor got a happy ending, never to be undone.
What, something happened years later? Nah, they’re all enjoying their eternal reward.
Just like Ted Kord….WE DON’T TALK ABOUT IT.
Y’know, it’s interesting that whilst Supergirl and (Babs) Batgirl, though Batgirl had a less glamourous ending, returned relatively quickly actual Kara and Babs didn’t return (in there original form) until the millennium when those tramuatised by the Crisis started running DC!
haha! Good point SP!
Obviously they Kyptonians of Earth-2 are much chestier than there Earth-1 counter parts! Even now I don’t think it’s ever mentioned that the two Kara’s look alike, even if Supergirl is now (kinda maybe?) the same age as Pee gee when we first met her!
Personally I’m alway here for the interpersonal drama, so it would have been nice to have seen the two Clark’s and Kara’s interacting with each other more. We’re told, mostly later, that Pee Gee was close to Lois but I don’t recall seeing any interactions between the two before it becomes an thing in Infinite Crisis!
As always great show obs!
(Sorry that this is a little choppy, not having the prodigious talents of Diablo Frank, I have to do this piecemeal so I don’t forget every point I wanted to make! :D)
Little outside your remit I know, but the first four issues of JSA Classified cover a little bit of the in between of Pee Gee thinking she’s Kryptonian (yet) and her (old) new origin. Clearing out all the old Crisis baggage before getting a whole new lot of Crisis baggage to replace it!
And I hope I passed the audition!
The only PG reference to Crisis I remember was from her limited series in 1986 (?). So I will have to go search out those JSA Classified issues to see how it is explored!
Supergirl’s death the most homaged cover? I kept track of these things for a while, and I rather think it’s Action Comics #1, although that issue of Crisis is certainly up there.